Wednesday, May 24, 2023

San Francisco Giants All-Time Team

Our final MLB roster might be the most stacked squad of all - at least among National League franchises. Here's the San Francisco Giants all-time team.

 

The Giants played more years at Candlestick Park (and the Polo Grounds), but all of their modern-day title teams played at Pac Bell/SBC/AT&T/Oracle Park.






John McGraw managed the Giants for 31 seasons, leading the team to ten National League titles and three World Series victories in  New York. He might have had a fourth World Series win if the team hadn't scoffed at playing the "inferior" American League champions in 1904.

Here's his all-time lineup.




This lineup is loaded with home run power, surrounded by high-average hitters including lead-off man George Davis, who batted .332 and stole 357 bases over ten Giants seasons. Again, shout-out to Gregory at Nine Pickets for the Davis custom.

While other NL West franchises like Arizona and Colorado have few backup first basemen to choose from, the Giants are overflowing with options.



Giants statsWARBAOBPSLGOPSOPS+

*Roger Connor53.00.3190.4020.4880.890161

*Orlando Cepeda30.30.3080.3520.5350.887140

Will Clark35.80.2990.3730.4990.872145

Brandon Belt27.60.2610.3560.4580.814123


Will Clark was a Barnstormer in the original series; he'll try to hold on to his roster spot in an expanded competition. McGraw will find a place for Orlando Cepeda somewhere.





The other infield positions are more quantity over quality. San Fran has a lot of league-average options.



Giants statsWARBAOBPSLGOPSOPS+

*Larry Doyle42.70.2920.3590.4110.770127

Robby Thompson33.80.2570.3290.4030.733105

Brandon Crawford29.90.2510.3200.3990.71998

Travis Jackson44.20.2910.3370.4330.770102

Art Fletcher42.30.2750.3180.3560.674100

Art Devlin34.00.2680.3650.3370.702111

George Kelly22.80.3010.3480.4650.813117


George "High Pockets" Kelly would give Larry Doyle a run for his money but his primary position is - you guessed it - first base. Doyle stays.


While Barry Bonds is locked into the starting left field spot, his dad Bobby has a bit of a battle for a bench role.



Giants statsWARBAOBPSLGOPSOPS+

*Bobby Bonds38.10.2730.3560.4780.834131

Mike Tiernan42.30.3110.3920.4630.855138

George Burns36.40.2900.3680.3910.759124


McGraw would add underrated 19th-century star Tiernan as a fifth outfielder, but not at the expense of Cepeda.


If the Giants hitters aren't impressive enough, the starting pitching may just put them over the top.




The only non-Hall of Famer here is the still-active Madison Bumgarner, recently DFA'd by Arizona. It would be easy to assemble an all-Hall Giants rotation with any of these starters should McGraw choose to do what the Diamondbacks did and cut MadBum.



Giants statsWARERAERA+K/BB WHIPstarts

*Madison Bumgarner32.93.131204.191.111286

Amos Rusie66.42.891371.161.327403

Mickey Welch53.12.691191.461.225412

Tim Keefe37.22.541292.251.101269

Joe McGinnity33.62.381191.701.116237


Bumgarner's big-game bona fides gave him the edge originally, and it's enough to stay in this rotation.


The Giants' relief group is also unchanged.



Greg Minton is third among Giants pitchers in appearances, but he walked more batters than he whiffed.




Looking ahead... this is going to be a tough roster to break through for any young Giant. Starting pitcher Logan Webb and closer Camilo Doval have been impressive at the big-league level, and lefty starter Kyle Harrison is knocking on the door. A middle infield role might be easier to earn than a middle relief role; Marco Luciano is a top tier shortstop prospect but he's at least a couple years away.
 


TL; DR: No changes from the original roster.




This completes the updated All-Time Teams roster for all 30 MLB franchises. But we're expanding this league to 32 teams this weekend with the Negro League All-Stars and the "best of the rest" Barnstormers. 


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Tuesday, May 23, 2023

San Diego Padres All-Time Team

Our next-to-last stop is a one-team California city that lost both their NFL team and their NBA franchise. Wait, I thought we already went to Oakland?


 
The San Diego Padres nearly left for Washington in 1974. Ten years later, they won their first of two NL pennants.



Bruce Bochy managed the Friars' second NL title-winning club, in 1998. The current Rangers skipper won three World Series rings with the cross-state rival Giants - but he's a distant second in San Fran annals. 

Here's his all-time lineup.




Just two Hall of Famers here - and Winfield played more games with the Yankees. Gonzalez and Giles are quality starters. The middle infield needs work.



Padres statsWARBAOBPSLGOPSOPS+games

*Bip Roberts12.50.2980.3610.3870.747106667

*Khalil Greene9.30.2480.3040.4270.73196659

Tim Flannery9.10.2550.3350.3170.65285972

Garry Templeton10.00.2520.2930.3390.632771286


Garry Templeton would be the people's choice but Khalil Greene had much more power. Not to focus on any one stat, but an all-time starter with a 77 OPS+ would be embarrassing. Oh... hi Freddie, didn't see you there. 


There is a shortstop in San Diego who has already produced more offense than any middle infielder in team history. But he's not quite ready yet...




Aside from Nate Colbert, the Padres' best bench options are third basemen. Manny Machado is still an (All-Time) Oriole for now, but he's one of four 'hot corner' stars among the leaders in position player WAR for this franchise.



Padres statsWARBAOBPSLGOPSOPS+

*Phil Nevin17.80.2880.3590.5030.862129

*Chase Headley18.20.2630.3440.4050.749111

Manny Machado17.80.2760.3470.4940.841131

Ken Caminiti17.50.2950.3840.5400.924147


Chase Headley might have had the least memorable career of these four, but his 18.2 WAR is sixth in San Diego history. (You know who has the fourth-highest total? Gene Tenace.)



It was very tough to find backup outfielders for this roster in the original series. Juan Soto won't be here for a while - and if he does sign long-term he's almost certainly starter material - but there is a new contender.



Padres statsWARBAOBPSLGOPSOPS+

*Gene Richards19.00.2910.3570.3870.744113

*Will Venable13.30.2520.3160.4100.727105

Wil Myers12.30.2540.3300.4510.781115


The battle of wills goes to Myers. His versatility helps a bit, though Bochy has plenty of other options at Myers' secondary position, first base.


The Padres' rotation needs work. Only their ace and 2007 Cy Young winner Jake Peavy is locked in. 




Not much to work with here, and no new hurlers have qualified. So let's revisit some past Padre pitchers.



Padres statsWARERAERA+K/BB WHIPstarts

*Andy Benes20.83.571092.581.239186

*Andy Ashby22.83.591122.561.246185

*Randy Jones20.73.301041.641.208253

*Eric Show15.93.591011.601.283230

Bruce Hurst15.03.271132.551.181131

Joey Hamilton15.83.831041.861.343142

Ed Whitson16.33.69992.191.229208


Bochy makes a marginal upgrade, swapping Show for Hurst.


The Padres bullpen has some underrated arms building a bridge to Hall of Famer Trevor Hoffman.



Still, it wouldn't hurt to look at other options.



Padres statsSVERAERA+K/BB WHIPgames

*Craig Lefferts643.241142.201.249375

*Luke Gregerson162.881263.291.092363

*Scott Linebrink42.731452.781.147306

*Mark Davis782.751352.181.260230

Craig Stammen53.361204.291.144333

Greg Harris152.951282.251.182194

Kirby Yates562.551615.401.002192


Yates technically qualifies, with three full seasons plus six appearances in the Covid-shortened mini-season. Bochy taps Craig Stammen to replace Craig Lefferts, based primarily on the former Craig's impeccable control.


Looking ahead... Khalil Greene's days as San Diego's all-time starting shortstop are numbered.

 


El Nino is looming.


Jake Cronenworth could be in the mix very soon as well. Machado could certainly switch teams as mentioned, and so could Juan Soto. The Padres currently have three pitchers on other teams' all-time rosters - Yu Darvish, Blake Snell, and Josh Hader. Eventually they're gonna have to grow their own.



TL; DR: Three changes from the original roster. Venable, Show, and Lefferts out. Myers, Hurst, and Stammen in.

 

Come back tomorrow for the final MLB franchise in this series (but not the final roster) the San Francisco Giants.



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